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chance
Date Posted: Jan/16/2011 7:46 AM
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I am making a banner for a local forum and whenever I am finished and upload it to the site it is soft. I bumped the dpi up to 300 and still the same. it is 110x925. Do I make it bigger and then shrink it down??

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kennymc
Date Posted: Jan/16/2011 1:20 PM
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How are you making it bigger?

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chance
Date Posted: Jan/16/2011 5:37 PM
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Just like you would in a recipe-double or triple the sides and width. Or wouldn't that work? Then shrink it down to the size it is supposed to be 925x110

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kennymc
Date Posted: Jan/17/2011 4:04 AM
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The easiest option would be to create the banner at the correct size in the first place

If you enlarge an image that is 72ppi you are bound to get artifacts such as jagged edges even if you increase the ppi... This is because when the original image was reduced for the web, all the subtle interim coloured pixels have been thrown out to reduce its size... Enlarging the image to 300ppi will not recreate those interim colured pixels...

You will never achieve a really sharp image but merely setting the crop tool to 925px X 110px X 72ppi will give you about the best results possible...

It's like someone saying that they convert 8 bit images into 16 bit images... An 8 bit image has 16,777,216 colours shades or hues, a 16 bit image has 281,474,976,710,656 colours shades or hues... They might increase the image size to that of an 16 bit image but they can't reproduce the extra 281 trillon plus colours that a 16 bit image has...

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chance
Date Posted: Jan/17/2011 6:08 AM
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I did do it at that original size and it is soft. It will never be sharp? I am doomed?

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kennymc
Date Posted: Jan/17/2011 9:53 AM
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If you are doing it at the correct size to start with you should get it sharp, it's only if you try making it bigger from a low ppi that problems arise...

Create a new 8 bit file as follows... 925 x 110 pixels... resolution 96ppi (just cos I like that res and for no other reason)...
Make sure any images you add to the banner are also reduced to 96ppi...
Then add any text...

If you are using the save to web option add just a touch of unsharp mask berore you save.

 Message edited by: kennymc on 01/17/2011 12:09:18

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chance
Date Posted: Jan/17/2011 5:58 PM
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How about if I just attach what I did. I must have done something wrong because even the letters are soft. This is just rough draft but you get the idea. Thanks Kenny

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bismanbanner.jpgbismanbanner.jpg ( 29 Kbytes)
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chance
Date Posted: Jan/17/2011 5:59 PM
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Looking at it on here it doesn't look near as soft as on the local site I uploaded it to. I did it the same way I uploaded on here.

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kennymc
Date Posted: Jan/18/2011 4:43 AM
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I don't have those fonts or the image but here's my attempt just to see if it appears sharp...

bismanbanner2.jpgbismanbanner2.jpg ( 91 Kbytes)
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chance
Date Posted: Jan/18/2011 5:22 PM
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Thanks and your looks as sharp as mine here but I would have no way of knowing if it would be when uploaded-which I would never do. Thanks for taking the time to help me and I am going to try it again with your instructions.

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kennymc
Date Posted: Jan/19/2011 5:35 AM
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If you wish to use it for trial or permenant use DO SO... All I did was to try and create your banner but didn't have the fonts, the image is yours...

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swanseamale47
Date Posted: Jan/19/2011 8:27 AM
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Kenny's version looks noticably cleaner on my monitor, when you say it looks the same as yours do you mean your original or the one you uploaded?

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chance
Date Posted: Jan/19/2011 10:19 AM
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I guess what I am talking about is the font. I think I know the problem. I stretched mine. I made a new one that I didn't stretch and it turned out fine. Thanks again!

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Victor
Date Posted: Jan/30/2011 9:21 PM
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This is no doubt overkill, but Illustrator will eliminate such problems. I wouldn't buy it and learn it for just an occasional banner though.

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